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				High Pass Filter Settings
				Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:53 pm
				by tcatzere
				Earle,
I'm currently working on a project with a real nice big bass bottom end.  I have already shelved it slightly at about 45Hz.  However, there still seems to be some subsonic rumble and muddiness.  I thought maybe I would use a high pass filter to remove some of that, but I wasn't sure what the best setting would be in order to preserve that big full (almost movie theatre) sound -- 35Hz or maybe 40Hz??  There's probably some "standard" threshold for this, but I'm not sure what it is.  Thanks.
Tom
			 
			
					
				Re: High Pass Filter Settings
				Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:12 pm
				by har-bal
				tcatzere wrote:Earle,
I'm currently working on a project with a real nice big bass bottom end.  I have already shelved it slightly at about 45Hz.  However, there still seems to be some subsonic rumble and muddiness.  I thought maybe I would use a high pass filter to remove some of that, but I wasn't sure what the best setting would be in order to preserve that big full (almost movie theatre) sound -- 35Hz or maybe 40Hz??  There's probably some "standard" threshold for this, but I'm not sure what it is.  Thanks.
Tom
Hello Tom
Try  (18 dB/Oct) and sweep from 40hz until  the rumble disappears.
Earle
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:46 pm
				by tcatzere
				Hi Earle,
With this procedure, are you suggesting a sweep using a Q of about 1.4 (one octave)?  If so, is it possible to find the offending frequencies with a Q this broad?
Tom
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:12 pm
				by har-bal
				tcatzere wrote:Hi Earle,
With this procedure, are you suggesting a sweep using a Q of about 1.4 (one octave)?  If so, is it possible to find the offending frequencies with a Q this broad?
Tom
Tom
You are sweeping with a high pass filter from 45hz >
You don't need to determine a Q
Earle
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:29 pm
				by tcatzere
				Sorry about that Earle.  I assumed you meant a sweep with a parametric equalizer.
Tom
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:44 pm
				by har-bal
				tcatzere wrote:Sorry about that Earle.  I assumed you meant a sweep with a parametric equalizer.
Tom
Tom
If you engage a high pass filter using a parametric equalizer the Q would be dis-engaged anyway. You would only be able to sweep the frequency
Earle
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:32 pm
				by tcatzere
				Earle,
By its very nature, would  the judicious use of a high pass filter on material that has a fairly substantial bottom end tend to add a little clarity and definition to vocals?
Tom
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:41 pm
				by har-bal
				tcatzere wrote:Earle,
By its very nature, would  the judicious use of a high pass filter on material that has a fairly substantial bottom end tend to add a little clarity and definition to vocals?
Tom
It would be comparable to removing a veil. You would be surprised how a mix can be clouded by too much low end. Its different if you are specifically looking for that sound like the style "drum and bass" or some forms of rap or techno with pronounced sub-sonics.
Just as we discussed earlier it is best to start at 45hz and slowly sweep back and forth until the bass is nice and round...no longer muddy.
Cheers
Earle