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				Average level???
				Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:25 pm
				by Ged Leitch
				Hi guys, after mastering a track then importing it back into harbal the level reads...
average -14.55db   peak 1.25db
does that mean the track is actually a digital over of 1.25db?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:30 pm
				by HarBal
				No it doesn't. The peak figure of merit is the area under the peak aggregate spectrum (yellow trace). It can be bigger than 0dB because you are taking the loudest parts of the spectrum and putting them all together when in reality they are occuring at different times during the entire track and not simultaneously. That is why it can be bigger than 0dB. 
Regards,
Paavo.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:36 pm
				by Ged Leitch
				HarBal wrote:No it doesn't. The peak figure of merit is the area under the peak aggregate spectrum (yellow trace). It can be bigger than 0dB because you are taking the loudest parts of the spectrum and putting them all together when in reality they are occuring at different times during the entire track and not simultaneously. That is why it can be bigger than 0dB. 
Regards,
Paavo.
so the measurement relates more to dynamics rather than  a standard digital  meter?
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:27 am
				by Phi Lion
				Is the average loudness figure of merrit indicator the same
as  AES - 17 std ref
Also do you guys have any idea why wavelabs rms levels are higher  than this value.  
Thanks guys
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:25 pm
				by HarBal
				I'm not aware of that standard so I couldn't tell you. It is simply the RMS figure calculated for the entire track without weighting ( in version 1.51 and before it used to be A-weighted and have a different reference) referenced against a full scale sine wave. 
I'd assume wavelabs rms level read higher as it might be excluding waveform data that is lower in level than some pre-determined threshold. 
Regards,
Paavo.