In your opinion, Earle, does low shelving at 45hz in any way compromise that nice big sub-woofer territory -- or is it just pretty much "mud" and "nothingness" from that point down?
Tom
Using Eq after Harbal
Actually it does not compromise the subwoofer territory. Too much bass in a track robs the sound from everything else in a track. Think of the ultra low bass as dead weight. The challenge is to remove the boominess and bring back the kick.tcatzere wrote:In your opinion, Earle, does low shelving at 45hz in any way compromise that nice big sub-woofer territory -- or is it just pretty much "mud" and "nothingness" from that point down?
Tom
You will also notice that it is much more difficult to master a track and have that commercial loudness with too much bass hanging around.
I always use a sub when I am mastering and I can plainly hear the dreadful muddiness in some tracks that are brought to me.
Most clients are not aware of the added bass content in their tracks because their monitors are not reproducing them. Their frequency range of reproduction may not be that wide. They try and compensate by increasing the bass too until it sounds good in their monitors (By then it is too late).
That is why it is important to follow Har-Bal, because it can plainly show where your bass content is and you don't have to necessarily have a subwoofer. You can just import a song of a similar genre and view the area of the bass content. You can then SEE if you are in the right ballpark

Earle
Tomtcatzere wrote:Earle,
In your own mastering, do you routinely use this procedure of low shelving at 45 hz, or is it project specific and used only on an "as needed" basis?
Tom
I would have to say that I use low shelving at 45hz better than 90% of the time. I find that nothing is really useful down there especially when most folks are playing their music on systems that have a typical frequency response of 65hz - 15,000hz.
Now I must confess that I will sometimes use this region if the song will be a club version and you want the bass slammin. Most clubs have subwoofers.
Earle