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What is the BEST dither??
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:20 am
by Frederic
Hi !!!!!
I would know what is the best dither?
UV22?
Sonic Timeworks dither?
Izotope Ozone dither?
Another??
THANKS!!!!
Fred
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:25 am
by doogle
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:42 pm
by zumbido
I've been on that 'shootout'.
I don't get it.
You're, NOT supposed to hear 'dither'.
These examples range from snowstorms to sandstorms. I don't get it.
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:30 am
by doogle
Are you saying that dither is supposed to be inaudible?
Fair enough the tests might not be 100% accurate but its worth listening to the different types of dither subjected to different conditions.
I am fascinated with dither so i could be a bit weird.
The whole idea is there is all of these different types of dither in this test and the gain has been cranked to lift the noise floor and hear each dithers character.
Its not a real world test, but its not completely useless. I found it interesting.
Re: What is the BEST dither??
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:47 am
by har-bal
Frederic wrote:Hi !!!!!
I would know what is the best dither?
UV22?
Sonic Timeworks dither?
Izotope Ozone dither?
Another??
THANKS!!!!
Fred
Fred
The UV22 is an excellent plugin. The clarity you get at 24bit while mastering your tracks remains, even after you dither down to 16bit using the UV22 prior to burning to CD. I have been using it for years.
The UV22 comes standard in Wavelab. If you are mastering at a volume of 85db's (use a sound level meter) you wiLl be able To hear the difference.
Better still, if you are using Wavelab make sure you have the UV22 open and alternate between 16 and 24bit while the track is playing. You will hear the difference. It is subtle, but there is a difference
Cheers
Earle
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:04 pm
by Frederic
Thanks Earle !!
OK! I use UV22!
Can I use the Normal UV22 or the Low UV22??
Cheers
Fred
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:07 pm
by Frederic
SO... You reduce the hiss/noise with a plugin? a hardware?
Somebody can help me?
Cheers
Fred
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:23 pm
by har-bal
Frederic wrote:SO... You reduce the hiss/noise with a plugin? a hardware?
Somebody can help me?
Cheers
Fred
You can reduce the hiss with a plugin. Below is a free one good for 30 days
http://carib-link.tucows.com/preview/193472.html
You can also use a parametric equalizer to remove hiss by sweeping the high spectrum and find the origin of the hiss and just notching it out. Again plugins would probably be easier.
Earle
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:42 pm
by Frederic
Earle
I know Acoustica and I know he's not enough performant!
Voxengo Redunoise is really better than Acoustica !!
Algorithmix Renovator is the BEST??
Cheers
Fred
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:21 pm
by zumbido
"Are you saying that dither is supposed to be inaudible?"
I would think the affect of dithering should be inaudible - or at least nearly. The idea is to end up with a version of your 24-bit (or higher?) file in a 16-bit format that is as close as possible in sound.
I keep thinking I should be working at 16-bit/44.1 kHz. That way I won't need to dither and won't be dissappointed in the over-all fidelity after dithering.
Actually maybe a should figure out how to work in an 'mp3 sound' format from the start.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:54 am
by dbmasters
Frederic wrote:SO... You reduce the hiss/noise with a plugin? a hardware?
Somebody can help me?
Cheers
Fred
Sonic Foundry had some older plugins for noise reduction that worked very well, I still use them for NR jobs. However, since Sony bought all of Sonic Foundry's desktop apps, I haven't seen or heard anything about them.