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Lifting vocals out of a track??

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:17 pm
by tcatzere
A question for Earle . . .

If vocals are somewhat buried in a track and the band does not want to re-mix, I assume that using Multi-Band is about the only option available to help lift those vocals out a little.

In this situation, what is the best frequency range to use? And, should I be focusing on the vocal fundamentals -- or the harmonics?

Tom

Re: Lifting vocals out of a track??

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:52 pm
by har-bal
tcatzere wrote:A question for Earle . . .

If vocals are somewhat buried in a track and the band does not want to re-mix, I assume that using Multi-Band is about the only option available to help lift those vocals out a little.

In this situation, what is the best frequency range to use? And, should I be focusing on the vocal fundamentals -- or the harmonics?

Tom
Tom

Here is an option.

If the vocalist is a female I use a Q between .20 and .50 at the 6500Hz mark ...for a male vocalist I use the same Q at the 4500Hz Mark

I listen at a very low volume...almost a whisper and start lifing the vocals out.
Works every time :)

For other instruments I will perform a frequency sweep and start adjusting the Q to isolate it.

Cheers

Earle

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:02 am
by tcatzere
Earle-

Thanks for the tip -- it works beautifully!

Tom

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:20 pm
by har-bal
tcatzere wrote:Earle-

Thanks for the tip -- it works beautifully!

Tom
No problem. You are welcome. By using such a wide Q you are also bringing up the harmonics for the vocals so they remain full.

Cheers

Earle

Re: Lifting vocals out of a track??

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:40 pm
by tcatzere
har-bal wrote:
tcatzere wrote:
...almost a whisper and start lifing the vocals out.
Earle,

In order to get the male vocal where I thought it should be, I had to make about a 5dB increase at 4500Hz. Does this sound excessive to you?

Tom

Re: Lifting vocals out of a track??

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:47 pm
by har-bal
tcatzere wrote:
har-bal wrote:
tcatzere wrote:
...almost a whisper and start lifing the vocals out.
Earle,

In order to get the male vocal where I thought it should be, I had to make about a 5dB increase at 4500Hz. Does this sound excessive to you?

Tom
Not at all.

You increase to where you fel it needs to be. Again...if you reduce the overall volume to a little above a whisper you can lift the vocals until they are just barely sitting above the track. Funny enough, I am doing that right now with a track a customer brought over.

Cheers

Earle